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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:34:00 -
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Zero Neutral Revenge wrote:Several questions.
1) Which one of these ships would be considered end-game?
2) Which has the most tank? (Don't count Bastion)
3) Which can pull the most DPS?
4) Which would you choose and why?
1) Machariel and Vargur both qualify, if you're talking about mission blitzing.
2) The Vargur, hands down. (Even ignoring Bastion. EM shield resists.)
3) The Machariel (for now).
4) I use the Vargur. Though the Mach has a bit more DPS, the Vargur can loot and salvage an extra 5-11m isk/mission while speed running, which puts it on top in my book. |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 18:52:00 -
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I'll try to steer us back on topic. 
Zero Neutral Revenge wrote:
Thanks for the info everyone. Keep the opinions coming!
Do you happen to have an updated version of your Mini-Vargur Maelstrom fit?
I'm currently using a Maelstrom and I'm wondering how would you fit one today? Guristas are kicking my arse since they can hit me at all ranges and tend to all agro at the same time. I'm using a MJD/1400 arty fit.
I'll freely admit, my BC fits needs some love and updatesGǪ those puppies are way out of date.
I really dislike the MJD for missions. The fixed 100KM is too finicky and puts the ship outside of its ideal kill zone too often.
For Arties, I'd use 1400s, an AB, Heavy Cap booster, Mission-specific hardeners, and a Tracking Computer with tracking script. Lows: 4x Gyros, 1 TE, but I think you need Republic Gyros to not go over on CPU. (Just off the top of my head.) Pretty sure you'll need 1-2 ACR rigs to make it fit.
Absolutely use Republic Fleet EMP/PP/Fusion with 1400s. It looks expensive at first glance, but it really isn't with those big slow guns. Use your AB to maintain about 30-50km range, group your guns in 2s, and shoot the small stuff first when it's coming in a straight line.
For ACs it would essentially be the same fit, but with 800s and a MWD instead of an AB. It's good practice for the Vargur, but I don't recommend doing it until you have T2 ACs.
That's what I've toyed with, at any rate. I'm sure there's some fine-tuning to be done. (I can't decide on the optimal rigs for the ACsGǪ I've been liking Semiconductor Memory Cells lately for the cap flexibility, but it's less necessary with a cap booster.)
Quote:Also, let's talk a little bit more about the Machariel. Has CCP said that they want to nerf it?
They do want to nerf it (link farther above), but no one knows when or how. The price has been taking a dive though, to the point that it's almost 500k cheaper than a Vargur. The Varg will be cheaper for the overall total fit, however.
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